DISQUS

Zoli's Blog: Simplified Guide to Importing All Your Archive Email Into Gmail

  • Voyagerfan5761 · 2 years ago
    Good work, Mr. Erdos! You beat me to coming up with this trick on my own blog!
  • Kula bácsi · 2 years ago
    What if I have subfolders in my local Sent folder?
  • Ben Kepes · 2 years ago
    All they need now is native multiple signatures with auto signaturing based on send from address chosen

    If they had that I'd switch....
  • Voyagerfan5761 · 2 years ago
    @Ben Kepes: Multiple signatures would be very nice. Heck, HTML signatures (without resorting to Greasemonkey hacks) would be nice...
  • Ben Kepes · 2 years ago
    and how do I enable imap in gmail (dumb question I know!)
  • Anders Buch-Jepsen · 2 years ago
    Thank's for your useful guide. However, it seems not everyone has IMAP access yet. Google writes:

    "We're working hard to roll out IMAP access to all our users, but it'll take about a week...You'll know that IMAP is available in your account when the Forwarding and POP tab in your settings becomes Forwarding and POP/IMAP."
  • Karl Jackson · 2 years ago
    Great post! I started this import last night before reading your post, knowing that there were probably a million other people doing the same thing.
    One lesson learned from my end: rather than moving the folders, copy them. Moving them will create problems when (inevitably) the server looses its connection and you have to start over. Problems in the upload will also leave you with partial folders. Alternatively, do the process incrementally.
  • Voyagerfan5761 · 2 years ago
    Great tips Karl! Importing one folder at a time is probably the way to go. Now as soon as Google gives me my IMAP, I'll start importing. Probably one folder a day.
  • Scipio · 2 years ago
    This certainly makes things much easier. I am having one problem though: when I copy my messages to the sent messages folder in Gmail, in the web interface, the recipient of the messages shows up as "me" rather than the name of the person that the message was originally sent to. Anybody else having this problem? Any thoughts on how to solve it? Thanks.
  • Chuck Kahn · 2 years ago
    Better to copy emails to the "All Mail" folder than to the Inbox. I've read them all anyways, so no need to clutter my inbox.
  • Ben Kepes · 2 years ago
    Question for Zoli or anyone else - when I compose mail in outlook 2007 it sits in the outbox of my personal folder. The only way I can get it to send is to move it to the drafts folder of my imap and then go into gmail online and click on drafts and send it - how do I make email automatically send through IMAP (and yes the only acount I have set up n outlook is my imap one) any clues>>>>>
  • Karl Jackson · 2 years ago
    Ben: Google left out a setup step in their directions for Outlook 2007. In the Account Settings, I had to turn on "My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication", and set it to log on using your normal username (name@gmail.com) and password. Worked for me anyway.
  • Pavel Sokolovsky · 2 years ago
    Thanks for the great post!

    Pavel
  • fromdtod · 2 years ago
    I noticed that it is possible to enable IMAP only in certain languages. If my language in gmail was set to hungarian, simple there was no menu to switch it on. But in english language of course it was there...
  • Sebastien · 2 years ago
    Here is the tricky question!

    I am using thunderbird in POp with gmail - and want to switch to imap. I have TONS, tons of folder, sub folder ... all neatly organized.

    1/do you know if by drag and dropping my folder, gmail will automatically create a label for online ?

    2/ what happen to the mail in the folders ? they will doubled up in gmail ? (i chose the option of keeping my mail online while using pop -we never know!)

    Sebastien
  • Calle · 2 years ago
    Is there any way I can move my "Sent" messages from Yahoo! Mail (free) into the "Sent" folder at Gmail?
  • Nick · 2 years ago
    Hmmm, will the new IMAP functionality allow me to transfer an old Gmail account to my new Google Apps account?
  • Zoli Erdos · 2 years ago
    I simply used Gmail's Mail Fetcher for that. Some people report Mail Fetcher does not allow Gmail accounts to be the source, but I haven't experienced that.

    I guess if you can't set Mail Fetcher up, you could always use the IMAP trick, basically making an offline email client the middleware.
  • Nick · 2 years ago
    great idea about using the offline email client in the middle between my Gmail and Google Apps account. I think IMAP will let me keep the original dates on my Gmail mails that I move over. I was told that Mail Fetcher doesn't keep the original dates on mails that are moved.
  • Zoli Erdos · 2 years ago
    Mail Fetcher *does* keep the original dates, but label information would be lost that way.
  • onedem · 2 years ago
    Now I'd like to use Gmail's spam filter to process my "All Mails" (or "historical baggage" :) ) again...
  • Nick · 2 years ago
    I just transferred my mail from my Google Apps account to a Gmail account (I wanted to use the new Gmail features!). You were write, Mail Fetcher would keep the dates but I would lose all labels that I put on manually. But by setting up both accounts in IMAP, and dragging mail from one account to the other, I was able to keep all the labeling intact. Very nice!
  • wendy nicholds · 2 years ago
    I have an account with Gmail my hard drive crashed and now I am accessing my acct through the internet. I would like to transfer and set up my account on our lap top.
    I am nervous about the transfer and how to go about it.
    lost in gmail and picassa.
    Wendolyn Nicholds
  • Dave · 2 years ago
    The IMAP import into Gmail works really well apart from some emails that were originally received through MS Exchange and then exported as .PST and imported into Thunderbird.

    Those appear in Gmail with subject "(no subject)" and from "(unknown sender)". When they're opened, the content is there but is prefixed with the entire mail headers beginning with "Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0".

    The emails all show up correctly again in Thunderbird if they're copied back off Gmail over IMAP. So I guess it's a problem with Gmail.

    Anyone else seen this?
  • Gil · 2 years ago
    I don't know about anyone else here - but I am unable to do this. whenever I try copying my 500mb folder structure from outlook into gmail via imap, my outlook crashes,

    Any suggestions?
  • Ben Kepes · 2 years ago
    Gil- do it a few folders at a time and you should be fine
  • Gil · 2 years ago
    Doing that, and its marginally working - this is quite the pain. But I guess its worth it in the long run.

    Thanks for the help
    -Gil
  • Ben Kepes · 2 years ago
    I've got around 12000 emails an it took a day or so. I'm at the moment getting all my mail from one gmail account to another - that looks like it's going to take a week or so!
  • James Taylor · 2 years ago
    Wow - worked perfectly. Thanks a bunch!
  • Michael · 2 years ago
    Does this work for AOL too? Where do I find these folders in my AOL? Could you write hits instruction in the simplest terms, assuming that I know nothing (almost true) but have a brain, so will learn!
  • Jeff · 2 years ago
    I tried set up IMAP in Vista Winmail and the result was that one new folder showed up "gmail" below my local folders.

    Not able to see any labels and was not able to drag and drop any emails to this new folder.

    Any suggestions?
  • Ted · 2 years ago
    Nice, but dropped mail from archive folders, show up under a new timestamp when reading gmail online...
  • camd · 2 years ago
    It looks like it sort of worked... I keep getting errors from Mail.app saying it cannot upload, and Gmail keeps crashing (preventing me from accessing my email). Is there any way to confirm that emails have transferred? Right now I have some emails transferred, but I have no way of knowing how many. The imap transfer idea seems right, but it doesn't appear to actually work very well.
  • Bruce · 1 year ago
    When I follow the procedure of dragging and dropping the email folders into the imap account folder in Outlook, and then click on the transferred email folder, the contents of the folder momentarily appear and then disappear permanently. The folder (label) shows up in my Gmail account, but also with no contents. Sometimes, however, with some folders, the contents remain, but most have this problem. Any ideas?
  • Rondracur · 1 year ago
    I also tried to upload my emails from Thunderbird (2.0.0.9, Linux) to Gmail by creating an IMAP account. The copy process works without any error message - but not all messages of a folder are copied. And I don't see any rule behind which one is copied and which one not. So at the end I have the whole folder structure of Thunderbird in Gmail now, but instead of around 200 MB emails I only have around 70 MB. Every help is appreciated!
  • Drew · 1 year ago
    @Rondracur

    when you import mail into gmail it will collapse messages into "conversations". So if you had a back-and-forth with someone that created 10 messages and you imported it into gmail it may only count as one. This may or may not be why your count is off, just something to check.
  • Kelvin · 1 year ago
    OMG...is this good or what!!! I never know GMAIL support IMAP till I read this. And this have been fantastic! Now I don't have to refer to 2 places for all my emails. GMAIL rocks! And thank you!
  • Min · 1 year ago
    This was so helpful and everything worked like a charm. For those of you wishing to transfer old mail from Eudora to Gmail (instructions not currently listed on Gmail's "supported IMAP client" page) here's what to do:

    Set up a personality for your gmail account with these details:
    SMTP Server: SMTP.gmail.com
    Check the "Authentication Allowed" box
    Check the "Use Submission Port (587)" box
    Select "Required, Alternate Port"
    Incoming Mail: imap.gmail.com:993
    Check the "IMAP" box
    Select "Required, Alternate Port"
  • Rondracur · 1 year ago
    @Drew: Thanks a lot! That for sure I had in mind.
    @all: So meanwhile I found three other reasons:
    1. If you used Gmail via pop3 before switching to IMAP and deleted an email and now you want to upload exactly this email with a special label it won't show up with this label/in the subfolder IF the deleted email is STILL in the Trash! So before uploading empty your trash!
    2. Some subjects of emails are causing problems so the won't be uploaded
    3. The upload connection to Gmail breaks down after a punch of emails. At the beginning you can upload a few hundreds but after a while less and less ... at the end only a few at the same time. -> Take a break and come back later/ another day.
  • robert · 1 year ago
    This works great for using Gmail as an archive, but in real-time there is still a problem I've encountered.

    I am using an MS Exchange server with Outlook 2003 as the client with a "redirect all mail to 'my secret Gmail' address" rule on all messages.

    If Chris sends an e-mail to me and to Ed and copies Diana, Gmail only shows Chris as the sender and "my secret Gmail" address as the recipient. So even if I do "Reply to all" in Gmail, I only respond to Chris. Worse yet, I can't even see in the header of the e-mail that Chris sent it to someone other than me.

    I've found various add-ins for Exchange that address this, but they all seem to install on the Outlook client and require it to be running in order to work.

    Anyone know how to get this working in Outlook 2003/Exchange based on server-side rules? Thanks.
  • Zoli Erdos · 1 year ago
    I don't know Exchange at all, but am really surprised, so far cases of forwarding I've seen show the original addressees, and the forwarding address (your secret account) does not become the adressee at all.

    Hopefully some of the readers can jump in...
  • 秦锋 · 1 year ago
    Do you know how to process if got "One or more parameter values are not valid"?
  • felix · 1 year ago
    in my case the time stamp shown in the inbox (right of the snippet) is the date i uploaded the mail with IMAP. nevertheless, the opened email shows the correct date, when it was received. unfortunately, this date is used for sorting the mail, as well as for searches in the mail...

    anyone any ideas?
  • Robert Judge · 1 year ago
    I'm sorry, but I don't follow this completely. By the instruction, "Drag and Drop all your old email into the Inbox folder in your new IMAP account," just what do you mean? How do I do that?

    Do I open Outlook 2003 and then open some other PST file rather than "Outlook.PST"? Which PST do I open, "Archive.PST" Can't I just copy the contents of Outlook.PST to GMAIL? Just how do I do that? Perhaps an explicit step by step process would help me. Thanks.
  • Brad · 1 year ago
    I'm having the same problem as Robert re: how to drag and drop into my IMAP account. I've been fumbling around, trying to login to imap.gmail.com using FireFTP, but haven't had any success.

    In case there's a better way, let me summarize what I'm trying to do. I just installed Office 2007 yesterday (new computer) and setup Outlook to access gmail but I must have set it up to use POP instead of IMAP because when Outlook downloaded my e-mails it deleted gmail's copy. I want to be able to access my e-mails via Google's web interface so now I'm trying to move the messages back to gmail. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
  • Ari · 1 year ago
    Hi.

    I have similar problems than Rondracur (January 12th, 2008 at 4:42 am).

    "I also tried to upload my emails from Thunderbird (2.0.0.9, Linux) to Gmail by creating an IMAP account. The copy process works without any error message - but not all messages of a folder are copied. And I don’t see any rule behind which one is copied and which one not. So at the end I have the whole folder structure of Thunderbird in Gmail now, but instead of around 200 MB emails I only have around 70 MB. Every help is appreciated!"

    I don't know how to verify how many messages are seen as conversations (actually I don't know how the "one conversation is one to many messages" should be seen through IMAP).

    I would have migrated my own domain to gmail, but due to these problems.. well.. I cannot migrate if I cannot be 100% sure all mail really is copied to gmail. :-/
  • Jon D · 1 year ago
    Felix

    I had the same timestamp problem - it seems to be client dependent.

    Kontact gave me the problem.
    Evolution didn't work at all (probably my setup)
    Kmail works perfectly (which is weird because its otherwise v similar to kontact)

    Hope this helps and good luck
  • Jon D · 1 year ago
    CORRECTION ***
    Kmail has the same problem - it looks OK, but googlemail show the upload date.

    I am about to try thunderbid. Anybody else got any cleints they know avoids the problem?
  • Jon D · 1 year ago
    *** FIXED **

    Felix

    Thunderbird seems to work OK with date stamps
  • Alpha · 1 year ago
    Great post - thanks!

    I transferred my Outlook 2002 mail to Gmail and all worked fine.... except for one big problem. All Hebrew e-mails in Hebrew that I transfer from Outlook to Gmail show up in giberish.

    Gmail in Hebrew works fine, but Hebrew e-mails transferred from Outlook are unreadable.

    Any help will be appreciated.

    Thanks.
  • tobi · 1 year ago
    workes fine so far dropping mails into the Inbox. Thanks!
    (using outlook 2003)

    problem though: there is just this imap-Inbox Folder showing up in outlook. No "Sent"-Folder whatsoever. Also, i can not move, copy, or create FOLDERS on the imap-account.

    anyone knows why?
  • Andy · 1 year ago
    Thanks for the article. I am trying to import my old email folders in entourage into gmail. It uploads fine, but the original date & time of the email are lost and replaced by the import time into gmail. Is there anything I can do about it?
  • Wayne · 1 year ago
    I recently switched from Yahoo Mail. Is there any way that I can import all of my old Yahoo emails?
  • TeNTiRuJo · 1 year ago
    I've used this way to unify my two gmail accounts, but i've had some problems. Some mails didn't copy, an estrange error occurred (with ThunderBird, it says "failed to copy/move message"). But this is not the most important, cause i can't, anyway (pop or imap), move near 400 mails with a specific label, between two dates (other mail within these dates were moved without problems). Any idea?
  • Sam · 1 year ago
    I have the same problem as Ari and Rondracur. There appears to be no way to be sure that all your email has been copied over. If you don't mind losing 5% of your emails, then it is okay. But for me, that is unacceptable.

    Do this at your own risk!!!
  • Sam · 1 year ago
    I have confirmed that it does in fact lose messages; it is not just that gmail counts differently or consolidates messages into conversations.

    This seems like a serious mistake.
  • tpullano · 1 year ago
    For Wayne above and others moving from Yahoo (free or paid) to Gmail, I was able to import all my yahoo mail in gmail with dates, header info, etc. all in tack.

    Did this using Gmail IMAP, Thunderbird, and YPOPs (google it!). This will import all your folders (I did it one at a time, configuring YPOPs each time for each folder).

    Within TB, I created an account for my Yahoo pop download, and the IMAP for Gmail per Zoli's second bullet. IMAP created the full label structure from my gmail in TB (now I have a gmail backup too!). Downloaded each folder to TB from Yahoo using YPOPs, then moved the emails to the appropriate gmail label (folder) in TB, then synced it up to gmail. If a label didn't existing, I created in TB and it would replicate in gmail!

    Email me at the name above "at gmail dot com" for specifics if you'd like.
  • Pasquale · 1 year ago
    So, how come Gmail fetcher did not move my Sent folder from Yahoo+ account, while it moved everything else OK?
    It's annoying to look for an answer, but perhaps someone here know the trick ;)

    Cheers~
  • Zoli Erdos · 1 year ago
    Pasquale, it's not supposed to. Gmail Fetcher picks up your inbound mail only, like any other POP service.

    IMAP syncs your SENT mail, too.
  • Pasquale · 1 year ago
    Thanks Zoli,
    so I was't just doing something wrong or weird...

    Well, then, IS there a WAY to trasfer all my 7000 sent e-mail from Yahoo+???
  • Pasquale · 1 year ago
    Someone in Chaina loged into my Yahoo account, sent over 1000 junk e-mails selling cell phones, etc. to everybody in my address book and then erased it... Niiice, fery friendly new way of doin' business with China... THEIR waay - just like what they did to Tibet... ;) :(

    NOw I HAVE to trasfer to Gmail...
  • Mike C · 1 year ago
    Seeing as this was written in Oct 2007 and it's now May 2008, is it at all possible to transfer local mail to Google Apps Gmail via FTP?

    Or has dragging and dropping via IMAP been improved to the point where all email gets transferred?
  • andy n · 1 year ago
    This is an awesome way of archiving emails but has anyone tried to drag a folder with subfolders from Outlook into gMail IMAP? I just tried with a 300mb chunk of my mailbox and for some reason it only transfered about 200mb. The worst part is that it didn't truncate in any logical order.

    Anyone have the same issue. I don't mind spending the time doing smaller chunks. I just want to make sure that it's reliable and actually transfering all of the emails! Any ideas on why it might be flakey?
  • Daniel Williams · 1 year ago
    I am using Outlook 2003, and have connected to my GMail account using IMAP. The drag and drop worked very well for a few days as I copied over my 4+Gb of data. But then it stopped working, and I get a message:
    "Can't move items. The file \gmail.pst has reached its maximum size."

    Now this folder did get to be about 1.7GB, but then I removed my GMail account, and re-added it showing only certain folders/labels. The pst file is just a few Kb now. Yet I keep getting this message.

    Any ideas? I have all my mail prior to 2007 archived in GMail now, and would like to get the 2007 email there as well.

    Cheers,
    Daniel Williams
  • Zoli Erdos · 1 year ago
    Daniel, I only vaguely remember this from the time I used Outlook, but it does not free up space in the .pst file when you delete accounts / folders.

    You explicitely had to select "compress file" don't remember the menu path, but getting there involved displaying your data file, right click ...etc ..etc. The compress process can take forever, but in the end you end up with a small file.

    Another option is to creat a new data file and just drag the relevant folders from the old file into the new one.
  • Daniel Williams · 1 year ago
    No, it's not the archive PST file that is the problem. It's only 1 GB. The file that is complained about is the file ITRimap.gmail.com-0000001.pst, which is in fact, 761 KB. Which makes no sense. How could that file be at any size limit?
    Now when I right-click on the imap account (imap.gmail.com), I see that the folder size is just about 400 KB there. But the "format" of the file is "Personal Folders File (97-2002)" It seems that this should be in a more recent format.
    But if the local file is so small, then this message must be due to something else. Could it be that imap will tell Outlook the size of my GMail account? And Outlook then decides that that is too big? That would be odd, but it's all I can think of right now. More ideas would be greatly appreciated.
  • kenny · 1 year ago
    I'm probably slightly more knowledgeable than your average layperson and can usually troubleshoot through the basics, but I find myself really confused at the moment. I've read through this current post and all the comments as well as the previous (apparently obsolete) versions, but I'm just not sure where to start.

    I'm trying desperately to leave AOL firmly in my past. I've used gmail's fetch to get my inbox. OK there. I want to get my archived folders, sent mail, and old (read) mail over to gmail to correspond with gmail labels.

    note: I don't have the AOL client installed. I do everything on the web.

    Can someone please direct me from here to get me on track with the instructions in this post?

    1. Should I use Thunderbird? If so, how can I be sure that date-stamped info will be preserved?

    2. What are these .pst files and do I have them?

    3. Can I leave everything I fetch on the aol server as well as a backup? (incidentally, all of my fetched inbox mail was deleted from aol. I'm still hoping to find out how to stop that).

    Many thanks
  • Mark McRobie · 1 year ago
    Will this work with a load of .eml files I exported from Windows Mail in Vista?
  • Phil Beresford · 1 year ago
    Fantastic! Excellent solution, worked perfectly using Entourage on a Mac.

    Thank you thank you thank you :)
  • Lars Petersen · 1 year ago
    Nice! I was searching for a simple method like this, now I finally have it! Thanks a bunch!
  • Ed Boyd · 1 year ago
    Why transfer email from Outlook to GMail...easy answer!
    Ever since Outlook went to Vista, it has been, at best, a pain in the butt! When one looks back on their experiences with this albatross, all you see is one glitch after another. Sometimes, all by itself, it starts acting up. As of this writing, I have developed duplicates of everything...how no clue. I have deided to move to web based email. Web based email for my busines? Yes. Yahoo is now unlimited storage, calendar, contacts and notes. If I want ot store info, externally, I use One Note...just hit the print button in Yahoo and it prints to One Note! If I want more in the PIM functions, I can buy Essential PIM for free or chose to pay for a few more bells and whistles. Yahoo lacks importing email from Outlook and I have a lot of reference emails. So I can load my emails into GMail and once in GMail, I can suck it into Yahoo. I also can leave that email in GMail as an Archive. That's why one wants to suck email into GMail...dump Outlook, save disk space, memory and grief. "And now you know the rest of the story!"
  • Greg · 1 year ago
    Absolutely brilliant solution. I was really worried about copying PST files as they're so big, and corruptible. So this solves it very elegantly.

    If I'd known about this before I'd have put a gmail folder on my Outlook ages ago. Much better than archiving it. It's taking ages to transfer my old emails, but it'll be worth it.
    BTW - I find it easier to move rather than copy, as I've found that if the transfer fails for any reason, it's easier to just transfer what's left. If I copy mails, it's a pain to work out what's gone and what's not. That's assuming nothing gets lost, but I'm willing to risk it and it seems very stable so far.
  • Herb · 1 year ago
    It would be great when gmail allows us to export all our emails somehow.
  • zolierdos (Zoli Erdos) · 1 year ago
  • John · 1 year ago
    Great post, I guess it just goes to show that good info lasts a lot longer than the person who originally posted (I'm still pleased to see google groups archives of C programming questions & answers from the 90's).

    I have successfully moved from Yahoo to Gmail using this post (beware that you NEED to choose Email Account -> IMAP, in Thunderbird 2.0 -> portableapps.com of course!, to be able to interactively work with your GMAIL account, POP is on by default!)

    Also, give a quick read through of Google's recommended settings for Thunderbird.

    Pre-creating the label groups in Gmail will make dragging and dropping into the label/folder easier (in Thunderbird it looks like a folder, go figure :)
  • Ben · 12 months ago
    I'd like to move my enormous Eudora Inbox over to Gmail, but I have a lot of spam in there that I didn't catch when it came in originally. Is there anyway to import to Gmail in a way that it will run its spam filters through it?
  • Ryan Meray, C! Tech Solutions · 11 months ago
    I've been using this technique or a variation thereof for some time now to move clients off of OE, Outlook, Thunderbird, whatever, and over to the Gmail side. I did this for my own account a while back and now all 1.5GB+ of my email is accessible from any computer with 'net access.

    I am pretty sure I only found out about this method from your site, so I gotta say thanks for the tip!
  • Mike C · 11 months ago
    How about the other way around? Anyone know how to back up mail from Gmail or Google Apps Gmail to something local? I think a lot of us will be very very sad if something were to happen to all that mail we rely Google to keep safe....
  • rd · 10 months ago
    I have read you can only cut and paste 200 at a time is that correct?
  • emlwinmail · 3 months ago
    sounds great & i set uo the imap accont in my winmai & enabled it on google, but Im lost after that.

    It wont drag & drop or copy (except to an exsisting locak folder)

    What an I missing. Im really upset, after month sof converting my outlook to wimal eml, I just cant lose them in windows 7
  • CB · 2 months ago
    @emlwinmail
    I discovered this great post this morning (thankyou Zoli!) and successfully transferred gigabytes of archived .eml files in my Windows Mail local folders over to my gmail account. The first couple of drag'n'drops I had to do in small chunks otherwise the connection dropped, but then for some reason it stabilized and I just dumped the rest (90%) in one go.
    I enabled IMAP for my gmail account online in gmail settings, then created an account in Windows Mail for my gmail address as per Zoli's instructions. Once you do this, it will ask if you want to synchronize folders, then all my gmail folders appeared in Outlook, one for each label in gmail. I had created a label online called 'transfer' to dump the .eml files into.
    Since all my .eml files are in my Windows Mail local folders, in Windows Mail I just dragged those emails across to my 'transfer' folder under 'imap.gmail.com' top folder in Windows Mail. Then the local and online folders synchronize.
    Hope the layman's description is helpful. I was totally lost until I found Zoli's post.